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Win2WinRSS
9th November 2008, 10:30
The executions of three men for the 2002 Bali bombings have been denounced by two British relatives of those who died.
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aromulus
9th November 2008, 11:12
I may be old fashioned, but an "eye for an eye" comes to mind....:NoNo:
Many times before, when terrorists were given jail sentences we saw the escalation of kidnappings with the purpose to use innocent victims as pawns for exchange, thus allowing them to be murdered when the authorities did not agree to the terms dictated.
By removing the bargaining chips, some of those poor souls will not have to go through the horrors of imprisonment and fear of death and torture.
I agree that some retaliation will eventually take place, but the ultimate deterrent might just sway the unsure or the weaker element by not taking part in any violent action.
No matter what, I am not, and will not criticize the laws of any particualr sovereign country on the subject.
Win2Win
9th November 2008, 11:27
No matter what, I am not, and will not criticize the laws of any particualr sovereign country on the subject.
Apart from UK justice which is not justice as it is run by liberal muppets who must look after the poor criminal :action-smiley-081:
These guys who not only kill the ex/wife, but take the kids out as well....should be :censored: hung.
jimeve
9th November 2008, 13:53
They will be in Paradise now.:rolleyes:
keithAngel
9th November 2008, 14:03
Its a nice simple solution not worrying to much about the effect of martyrdom but my problem with something so final (except in hot blood ) is that the state not only doesn't always get it right sometime like with the guildford 4 elements of it conspire to fabricate evidence.
Those folk wouldn't have much use for an apology if we took this step after all at the time there wasnt any dougbt was there??:NoNo:
Arthur Little
9th November 2008, 14:26
I'm not entirely sure if I believe in Capital Punishment per se - especially on occasions where an element of doubt exists - but whenever killings are cold-bloodedly premeditated (as in all acts of terrorism. and in certain cases involving atrocities on the scale of the Moors Murders committed by evildoers such as the likes of Myra Hindley & Ian Brady) then, yes, I am totally in favour of the death penalty being implemented in ALL four corners of the world.
Win2Win
9th November 2008, 14:26
They will be in Paradise now.:rolleyes:
They've got 40 Manc virgins......all with STD's :Erm:
joebloggs
9th November 2008, 15:56
They've got 40 Manc virgins......all with STD's :Erm:
at least 40 manc ones could be found, impossible to find 1 , never mind 40 scouser virgins :D
they wanted to die, so what's the problem ? thou their lawyer tried to stop it, I wonder why ? changing their minds ?
andypaul
9th November 2008, 16:12
Well the real deterrent would to be to leave them alive and kill everyone around them family and friends, then lock them up for the rest of their lives with hard labour while making them live in a cell full of dried fish.
But i somehow think i may not be the best minster for justice.
Seriously the above could never be carried out, possibly due to the fact that there is little you can do with in the constraints of deceny which would anoy the typical matyr in their eyes freedom fighter.
Killing them saves them the effort and leaving them in Jail leaves a possible escape attempt, or living martyr if they are released or even if kept locked up.
Radical thinking needs to be held at the very highest level to find ways it can be dealt with. I dont think torture or killing is the right way but you need some very clever punishments imo to deal with the situation. Way to clever for me to deal with.
Many suggestion i have heard do involve the family but why should you be punished for your estranged family members craziness?
I remeber a conversation which stuck in my mind. Years ago possibly 1999 or 2000 and i asked a afganhi mate why dont he join the British police? Good pay etc.
He replied back the police, the police here are a joke how do they expect to get a confession or punish a crminal?
This guy is one of the most mild mannered up for human rights etc people i know. He worked as an aid worker and very liberal by the standards of many afghans i have met.
All the others who have links with abroad (west indies, indian sub contient and africa mainly) sitting around the table we were talking at agreed. The Police in the countries know life/rights is cheap to some and act acordingly.
Now we know why the police here need days and days to hold the suspect comapared to most other countries. We try and bore them to death..
joebloggs
9th November 2008, 16:26
tactics the Nazi's used, execute the whole village they were from or kill 100 civilians for every killed German solider :NoNo: i'm sure that worked as a deterrent
what music did the yanks play when there was a siege :Erm: ? , 24hrs a day of Kylie Minogue, would make anyone give up :ARsurrender:
Win2Win
9th November 2008, 18:38
Put a large bomb in a car, give it to the prisoner as a present, and send him home. :)
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