CENOMAR for British fiance?

[Sim11UK]

Arthur I'm not trying to trip anyone up and I'm sorry if you think so?

But, Lastlid has posted from the "horses mouth". CNI requirements January 2012 from the British Embassy.

See post #15 the highlighted bit, it states a CNI and CENOMAR are required.

Yes it seem things change and we can't rely on past experience....I would have thought the same as you, but I remembered a couple of members saying they needed both certificates.

[Steve.r]

One and the same thing Sim, call it what you will. We call it a CNI when issued here in the UK, once it is exchanged in the embassy it is called a CENOMAR

[Arthur Little]

One and the same thing Sim, call it what you will. We call it a CNI when issued here in the UK, once it is exchanged in the embassy it is called a CENOMAR

... THAT'S the point I've been TRYING - seemingly endlessly - to get over all along!

[stevie c]

One and the same thing Sim, call it what you will. We call it a CNI when issued here in the UK, once it is exchanged in the embassy it is called a CENOMAR

Spot on steve it could not be explained any better

[Arthur Little]

Oh well ... ... one of the most important - and truly POSITIVE - aspects to emerge from all this is ... that it clearly demonstrates the sheer dedication of each of the respondents' efforts to ensure a new member receives as much helpful feedback as is possible to impart.

No bad thing! Quite the contrary, in fact! Thanks to everyone involved ... as always, your contributions are greatly valued!

[Arthur Little]

Arthur I'm not trying to trip anyone up and I'm sorry if you think so?

... I know you aren't, Simon ... you're a decent bloke!

[lastlid]

I have just looked at the UKBA checklist (for local CNI applicants) and for them to release a local CNI they seem to now require BOTH the UK issued CNI and a CENOMAR, from a British born male seeking to marry a Filipina. This is of course different to when I got married last year.


"For British Citizen applicant born in the UK:

¨ Original UK passport. If applicant is overseas, a certified copy of the data page; a photostatic or electronic copy of the certified page is not acceptable.
¨ Original UK-issued CNI, or original Notice of Marriage, issued by the British Embassy abroad. Please note that a CNI issued in Scotland should be presented to the British Embassy Manila within 3 months of it being issued.
¨ CENOMAR with details matching those on birth certificate and, if detail/s on birth certificate differ/s from those on the passport, another CENOMAR matching the details on the passport. "

[Sim11UK]

Seeing no one read the links I posted, except probably lastlid, here are the posts of RickyR, in a former thread.

Just trying to help leen, I'm saying no more.

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You actually both need a CENOMAR, they can both be applied for online at www.ecensus.com.ph . If your fiance pays for both locally and gets them both delivered to her house, thats the best option.
You need to apply for your CNI, you can do it at your local registry office (30 pounds I think), and then wait the 21 days, it's then valid for 3 months. When you get to the Philippines you go to the Embassy or consulate who will convert that to a local CNI. You then present that at the city hall to obtain a Marriage License, which takes a minimum of 10 days.
Normally it's all fairly straightforward, all the very best."

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It's a fairly recent requirement Rory, it used to be just the Filipina."

[Steve.r]

I agree Simon, but that is not exactly what we were trying to get at. I think the process is complicated enough but we are mixing different parts of the process.

The part of Ricky's post is the second step ... AFTER you get your Phil/UK Embassy approved document. Step 2 is going to your local Municiple, where you take your papers and your partner's papers for them to issue thier 'call it what you will' CENOMAR, which takes an extra 10 days to get. I think this is where the confusion in this thread is happening, because without this local document you cannot get married.

[juvyjones28]

The part of Ricky's post is the second step ... AFTER you get your Phil/UK Embassy approved document. Step 2 is going to your local Municiple, where you take your papers and your partner's papers for them to issue thier 'call it what you will' CENOMAR, which takes an extra 10 days to get. I think this is where the confusion in this thread is happening, because without this local document you cannot get married.

Did you mean MARRIAGE LICENSE Mr Steve?

We have just got married recently, My husband got his CNI from UK after 22 days. Then he arrived here in the Philippines, we then went to the British embassy the next day to exchange his UK CNI to local CNI. It was issue after an hour. We proceeded to City hall to apply for Marriage license and got seminars done. The Civil registrar officer posted our marriage license application for 10 days. After 10 days we went back to City hall to collect our marriage license we were then free to marry. We had church wedding.

Here are the list of documents we submitted:

My husband:

Local CNI from British embassy
Birth Certificate
Copy of passport
2x2 picture

Me:

CENOMAR
Birth Certificate
Brgy. Clearance
Parental consent
Cedula
2x2 picture

Family planning certificate
Marriage counselling certificate

[Steve.r]

Did you mean MARRIAGE LICENSE Mr Steve?

Yep..... thats the one

[Leen]

Hello yes we already had everything... his UK issued CNI(to be exchange for local CNI here in Manila) and my CENOMAR but then when i read the new requirements they also want his CENOMAR so what i did today i went to NSO office and get one for him,better safe than sorry.thank you guys for the advice it's been a big help to us...just hate to think that they always change the requirements...

[Steve.r]

Are you talking about the Form C5 ?

[Leen]

Hello,yeah you're right they also need your partner's CENOMAR as well.i just got it today and we're hoping that we dont encounter any more problems in Manila.

[Arthur Little]

better safe than sorry.

Oh, indeed ... !

thank you guys for the advice it's been a big help to us...

Pleasure! That's what we're here for. Glad you managed to get everything sorted out.

just hate to think that they always change the requirements...

... ... you've said it! Good Luck with your application.

[lastlid]

......just hate to think that they always change the requirements...

Yep, I think they do that to annoy us......

All's well that ends well! Good luck.

[Arthur Little]

Yep, I think they do that to annoy us......

... ... aye ... and not forgetting the opportunity to extract even more cash in the process.

[gladz]

Hi Leen.Based on me and my husbands experience.I presented my CENOMAR and his CNI which he brought it with him when he came over.